It was posted here about 6. Adored wife of the late Harold "Hal" Houle. I want to credit Hal rightly so don't confuse Houle's Pivot Aim with his controversial fractions and degrees aim system. . It occurred to me the newer members might not know who Hal Houle was. ” In TP A. Instruction & Ask the pros. from Hal Houle: There are only 3 angles for any shot, on. When I learned this from Hal over a decade ago, I started experimenting with a center of the CB placement pivoting to. B. He also enjoyed keeping tabs on the various players and the members of AzBilliards. By: Search Advanced search…23 years ago Hal Houle threw out a claim and teaser on an early internet group called Rec. . Vahmurka. His name has been on and off fourms for years. Efren: Oh, aim. People like Hal Houle and Ron Vitello and Gene are always going to have negative people trying to tear. The main reason why CTE is COMPLETE BULLSHIT (and, I’m sure, made up as somebody’s joke to show how dumb people are), is that there’s no discussion in it. I have been shooting pool off and on for about 25 years, so if I am using one, I would have to assume it is the ghost ball, but I cannot tell. None of them were related to math and geometry. Jamie Ferrel - Perfect Aim as reported by Joey A. He retired from Ottawa Hills Memorial Park after over 20 years as an "Underground Condominium Salesman. The common fractional-ball aiming system, sometimes referred to as Hal Houle’s 3-angle system. Q. . I've met Hal a few times. Dec 25, 2014 #7 there is no way to calculate such a thing. Takes his three angles and makes aiming easier to teach. If you look at most shots they can be grouped into one of these three angles in a general sense. every top player uses the same pro aiming system. I've been reading this board faithfully for nearly a decade, yet I've never heard mention of Ralph Greenleaf being a drunk. Silver Member. I then listened to them for several more hours while on my route as a mailman today so I could really let it sink into my subconscious. 11, I show that these aims are equivalent to 3/4-, 1/2-, and 1/4-ball-hits and the 15- and 45° angles are not exact. I was very lucky yesterday to spend a day visiting Hal Houle. As far as systems go, its as good as any, and an excellent place to start. Tom Simpson was 20 years younger than Hal. There are some DVDs on the subject. Barbara was born in Waterbury and was the. The Hal Houle Point and Pivot system is a billiard aiming system that uses the geometry, layout, and design of a pool table, as well as some common assumptions to help you determine the appropriate spot on the object ball to strike with the cue ball. Cherished mother of. If this is true, there must be something VERY, VERY POSITIVE (AND SOUND) to. Those who have learned CTE and become successful with it. he said he doesn't have to!!! lol that's classic right there!Hal Houle was without a doubt the greatest LATERAL THINKER in history when it came to POOL AIMING SYSTEMS! He developed over 20 aiming systems for pool and each one was way OUTSIDE THE BOX VISUALLY and in PERFORMANCE. What is it exactly? How is it used in. As most of you know, Hal was known for being devious in explaining CTE and that created a lot of misunderstanding about it. JoeyInCali Maker of Joey Bautista Cues. Most are good honest requests to learn. A key factor in CTE is that the shooter learns to largely disengage his conscious mind from the aiming process. There is an aiming system called "CTE" (center to edge) originally conceived by Hal Houle. . Search titles only. He was born on November 4, 1931, in Darby, Pennsylvania. What the old gent said to me is pretty much what Terry is saying in his video. It was very obvious to me how Jimmy was making balls. Oct 12, 2022 #56 phreaticus said:A CTE/PRO ONE video is coming! The video will present the exact visual nature of CTE. Tom simpson will be glad to teach it to you for a fee. (dont worry im not bragging, i still miss cuts like its no ones buisness) The reason for this is early on, someone told me if the shot is straight in. As per Hal Houle, CTE DOES NOT work with the vision center directly over the actual shot line, or NISL as Stan describes it. First he told me to forget. . He was born on November 4, 1931 in Darby, Pennsylvania. Below are portions of testimonials about an aiming system from one particular poster. Anybody know?dunno if the user named "halhoule" is the real thing, but he seems to be spamming this 'efren reyes aiming system' stuff + a phone number to people. I want to credit Hal rightly so don't confuse Houle's Pivot Aim with his controversial fractions and degrees aim system. I was very lucky yesterday to spend a day visiting Hal Houle. . Search titles only. If there is throw, then aiming exactly at the "contact point" where the ghost ball was should cause you to miss. Inventor: Elephant Practice Balls and Beautiful Balls ® (used on ESPN) Inventor: The Stroke Groover®Search titles only. S. Hal Houle. From the very first ball i. Let me know which one was your favorite in the comments! I’m really looking forward to making more micro two piece hauls with my friends so if you liked this one make sure to let me know :) My favorite Bikini from this haul was the last one! Check out Dare and Codee!That was Hal Houle's claim - but it actually takes about 50 different cut angles just to make a spot shot into a 4. . Any system based on a limited number of lines of aim will obviously not cover a wide range of shotsHi guys. All I can I can say for now is that NO ONE loved pool more than Hal. i do not charge you for anything, it is simple enough that i can teach you over the phone. He welcomes inquiries and does not charge for his advice. M is aiming by the numbers. Now according what Hal Houle taught me and my friends is There is an Edges to use for cut shot and cut. First he told me to forget everything I knew about shooting pool. CTE PRO. The 15 - 30 - and 45. Hal Houle was without a doubt the greatest LATERAL THINKER in history when it came to POOL AIMING SYSTEMS! He developed over 20 aiming systems for pool and each one was way OUTSIDE THE BOX VISUALLY and in PERFORMANCE. He truly was one of a kind who made pool his lifetime achievement in so many ways. For many, it would be easy to call Hal Houle a “student of the game” save the fact he might know more ways to pocket a ball than anyone else alive. ) A: I studied aiming systems under Hal Houle, who invented many aiming system variants. S. Hal Houle, during his research with aiming came to understand that the spheres we use for playing pool have 360 ticks on their circumferences. Hal Houle has taught a lot of people CTE and one of the people who took it a lot more seriously than the rest of the people is a guy named Stan Shuffett. Dave has CTE on his web-site, also Hal Houle's 3-angle system. He ran with Jimmy Moore, I think. Maybe it was already a given between us and we worked on other things. Yes. Houle is a surname. Condolences to his wife and family. Hal said he could probably teach me his aiming system in 15 minutes. In another pool forum they have discussed for at least thirty pages of threads, Hal Houle's aiming system. He ran with Jimmy Moore, I think. By: Search Advanced search…Ron V. Much to what I assume will be the chagrin of the vocal CTE guys, Hal Houle himself said this in his infamous original 3-angle document. Christopher lives on the same street as the following people: Roshelly Aviles · Susan M Heffelfinger · Anne E Vonneida · Hal Houle · Julia B Houle · Andrea J Partridge · David A Partridge · K Partridge · Sonia S Houle · Paula M Santos · Dana M Hackman · Trevor L Hackman · Scott Morgan · Mark E Barowski · Ann M Polukis · Michele M. In my opinion if you HONESTLY wanted to learn CTE then. I am not even sure I use an aiming system, and not even sure what to look for it I am. Hey everyone, New guy here. Silver Member. I realized. "Hal" Houle, age 82, passed away on May 29, 2014. For 13 years I have been on a mission to solve Center to Edge and I have accomplished what I set out to do. instead of you nose fitting up into the bridge of the frame - by turning. Obviously CTE was one of them and Shiskabob was another. So no, not playing the victim at all. . RecSportBilliards in 1996. Stan has worked for years on developing CTE/Pro One and that is. Just very different ways of seeing the two balls,. Stan has spent the last 15 years learning those secrets and has explained them. This method may not be for everyone, as it takes an analytical mind to wrap your head around. To Dave Segal for being so vocal about what. Loading…I've been using basic CTE for awhile, but using older information. systems that he currently endorses. So much easier it's mind numbing. from Hal Houle: There are only 3 angles for any shot, on any size table. TATE AzB Gold Mensch. If you would like a copy, email me atThe answers I received, from Houle followers, defied the laws of geometry and, as such, were absurd. First he told me to forget. I thought to myself, that idea. Hal Houle learned that through CTE a player can quickly tap into the purity of aiming. Hal Houle Point and Pivot System. bbb AzB Gold Member. and let's go to press. Also, now in effect, all. :grin-square: Perhaps the video will be large enough to honor Hal Houle for what he created. "Hal" Houle, age 82, passed away on May 29, 2014. No personal. When these methods are used the feel in aiming is reduced to almost zero. Just that simple!! thanks for the post friend!! mark . He has posted his phone number -- the new one in Pennsylvania (I think). The methods that Hal Houle teaches are the most exact and precise ways to aim that I have ever seen. If you want to learn more about these and other -shot aiming systems, seecut the . Fortunately some of his writings have survived his life, brought to you by the internet. Both of these men are right. We spent the morning working on some stroke, stance and footwork tweaks along with Stan sharing a few of his favorite drills. way I aim is I am alway shooting cue ball center but I am using the edge of the shaft. “Innovator” might be a better descriptor for Hal. That's going to change. Connie and I are beyond pleased! I left it all on the table: 38. . . Note: I'm not saying that Hal came up with the light theory. I try to use the aim & pivot method which goes like aim with the cue stick somewhere aside of the cue ball center to the contact point or the edge of the object ball and then pivot (only with the back hand) to the middle of the cue ball. 5" corner pocket (less from closer, more from farther away). Hal is 83 and has forgotten more about pool than I will ever know. Billiards (RSB) describing how only 3 lines were required to make nearly all cut shots on a 2:1 pool table with angles from 0 to about 90 degrees. These were all results of his own thought experiments and practical applications on the table. Perfect Aim, CTE, TOI, Hal Houle's systems come to mind. Joey: But what is your system to aim? Efren: I aim for pocket. All of which are very interesting and Ive been mixing and matching depending on the shot but for easy shots, I still use the ghostball system. Barbara Houle. You are referring to Hal Houles aiming system. Search titles only. poolguppy AzB Silver Member. There's only the center of the OB, the 1/4 or 3/4, and the edge. Notable people with the surname include: David Houle (biologist), evolutionary biologist David Houle (futurist) (born 1948), futurist and author Dave Houle,. Mary Lou Houle, resident of Toledo, Ohio, passed away November 21, 2022 at the age of 92. I had a lesson fron Stan Shuffet and have had a phone conversation Hal Houle. In addition to Hal Houle being attacked and his work ridiculed by the anti-CTE saviors for the rest of mankind, the most vilified person in the history of pool is the person so intrigued by Hal's thinking and creations that he wanted to finally solve the riddle, and has, is Stan Shuffett. #1. After much consideration, I have made a business decision to indefinitely postpone the creation of a CTE/PRO ONE video. Ask The InstructorI'm pretty sure he was from the Albuquerque neck of the woods. He has created several different systems to help people play better. Your mind’s eye can easily perceive each of the 500 shots referenced above as ‘one’. . . . S. Stan reveals how the 30 perception was "king" with Hal Houle. i do not charge you for anything, it is simple enough that i can teach you over the phone. Silver Member. As per Hal Houle, CTE DOES NOT work with the vision center directly over the actual shot line, or NISL as Stan describes it. The quality was amazing and I can’t wait to take pics in these two piece sets. Was great to hear his stories. Hal was not a great teacher, and did not really understand how or why most of the systems worked. I watched a great match between Cowboy Jimmy Moore and Wimpy Luther Lassiter that was on Classic ESPN the other day. Why are you so obsessed with me, PJ?RIP Mr Houle Dave. #1. . When these methods are used the feel in aiming is reduced to almost zero. Sport. Was great to hear his stories. August 1, 2023. Search titles only. cookie man AzB Silver Member. As most of you know, Hal was known for being devious in explaining CTE and that created a lot of misunderstanding about it. Yeah, I know - I know, if Hal did something it MUST be bogus and witchcraft. The Sailor's aiming system, which I detail in my book, is to me the only accurate way to aim at a pool ball. A lot of my terminology might be a little outdated but once you lock in your visuals, what is the precise order of. . . None of them were related to math and geometry. you have nothing to lose. Houle, speaking of CTE's primary 3 aiming points (15, 30, 45 deg, aka 1/4b fractions): "Your only requirement is to recognize whether your shot is a 15, 30, or 45° angle. Once you become trained to see nothing but those 3 lines and completely eliminate CONTACT POINTS strung across the OB and CB to link. every top player uses the same pro aiming system. Aiming ConversationHal Houle (rhymes with pool) gave his knowledge free of charge and welcomed anyone to call him at any time to learn more about his aiming systems. this is what makes systems work is the. Even then, the adjustment is minimal. REP to you dave. The part that confuse me is why is there. Hal Houle developed over 20 aiming systems that had nothing to do with contact points or fractions. Basically, the claim is there are only three different aims for all cut shots: a “15° cut,” a “30° cut,” and a “45° cut. A. But does anyone have a diagram or can at least explain simply what the. It's not, every combination of perception, left or right cut, sweep or pivot direction, etc,,,, will result in the same. I wish I would have known him back when he and I were younger. points") with either edge of the OB is the simplest way to think of it, but you can use several combinations of the fourths on both balls to. If anybody isn't convinced about their motivations at this point spanning almost 2 decades, they either have blinders on or are a part of the Johnson/Figueroa gang. How does this work. But how to do that when we're at home or work doing less important things? Just fire up Virtual Pool 3 on your desktop, aim any shot, then turn the. But these words already existed and weren't redefined or coined. Silver Member. Although, like San Jose Dick, the math is over my head and the physics lingo wrecks my game because I am thinking about when I play, I KNOW that there is merit to these systems and I will rejoice when the math and science guys figure it out and give people like Hal Houle and Ron V. If you and I were on a table for me to show you, you'd easily agree. Anyone that wants to give this an honest try, please do so and report back to this post. . Nov 12, 2019 - Answers to frequently-asked questions about Hal Houle's 3-angle aiming system. Thankfully, Hal sent a private email. 11, I show that these aims are equivalent to 3/4-, 1/2-, and 1/4-ball-hits and the 15- and 45° angles. The quality was amazing and I can’t wait to take pics in these two piece sets. Search titles only. " Hal's greatest joy was. EXACTLY WHAT is the Supposed Phenomenon for Center to Edge 'Aiming'. I was very lucky yesterday to spend a day visiting Hal Houle. Let me know which one was your favorite in the comments! I’m really looking forward to making more micro two piece hauls with my friends so if you liked this one make sure to let me know :) My favorite Bikini from this haul was the last one! Check out Dare and Codee!Hal Houle was without a doubt the greatest LATERAL THINKER in history when it came to POOL AIMING SYSTEMS! He developed over 20 aiming systems for pool and each one was way OUTSIDE THE BOX VISUALLY and in PERFORMANCE. I watched all dvds I listed above and they are some good and some bad. that includes reyes, souquet, archer, ortman, bustamante, and on and on. In another pool forum they have discussed for at least thirty pages of threads, Hal Houle's aiming system. Houle, speaking of CTE's primary 3 aiming points (15, 30, 45 deg, aka 1/4b fractions): "Your only requirement is to recognize whether your shot is a 15, 30, or 45° angle. Army and was stationed in Germany during the Korean Conflict. . Hal Houle has many systems, so you start from a false premise. Search titles only. No personal. I read morhts article but I would like further clarification. Both are deadly ways to pocket balls, contrary to what has been claimed by a small. you aim the left quarter, center and right quarter of the CB (the "3. By: Search Advanced search…So perhaps if it bugs you then skipping the threads would be the best thing to do. To read the pool playing tutorial for the Hal Houle Point and Pivot System, click the link to go on to the full pool playing tips article. By: Search Advanced search…I'm going to explain how to shoot this shot into the upper right corner pocket using real CTE. By: Search Advanced search…Search titles only. North, and all the ships at sea. I commented that, from my recollection, Hal Houle was a decent guy and had always been forthcoming in our prior discussions. He said Hal Houle wants to meet you today. Hal told me to stop before I got into that trench. Aiming ConversationThanks to another member for sending a PM to me with this system he found on the internet called "Splitting The Difference". E. Hal Houle It's been a long time since I've seen this HH post and something caught my attention that I don't recall thinking about. View more. He got it. And I heard. A. poolguppy AzB Silver Member. Directly quoting Mr. He started all of his destruction of aiming systems, Hal Houle, CTE, etc. And by honest try, I mean give it at least 10 tries, hopefully. And I listened. Began instructing pool in 1945. "Your" system exists because of the efforts of Hal Houle to bring the concept of ball to ball objective aiming systems into mainstream pool instruction. M is a by-product of Hal Houle's teaching. Well beyond the life of the. Watched the World 10 Ball Championships2022. This is also the explanation why balls can "bend" or find. Hal Houle developed over 20 aiming systems that had nothing to do with contact points or fractions. . It is looked upon as extrordinary, but it is a duplicate. If there were 10. Jan 20, 2013 #63 Patrick Johnson said:Some (mostly undercooked) food for thought about aiming system benefits for everybody. S. They could care less about 90/90 or the SEE System. Hal Houle invented it about 7 or 8 DECADES ago and called it Shiskebob. Therefore a cue ball has 360 ticks and an object ball has 360 ticks at their respective circumferences. M is a visual aiming method. Apparently he had many aiming systems. I'll never be a good player, but I try all the time to improve. Hal Houle figured it out over 70 years ago. . Hey everyone! After receiving numerous request to do a video on the Center-To-Edge (CTE) aiming system, I studied it for about week. 4. "CTE naturally aligns CB-OB relations as an overcut to. Well beyond the life of the lemming tribe. I wasn't bugged by the endless arguments on RSB 14 years ago over aiming, I simply skipped them. i teach professional aiming systems. points") with either edge of the OB is the simplest way to think of it, but you can use several combinations of the fourths on both balls to. I lived in Greeley, about an hour away from Denver at the time. After watching multiple. A. go! the ones i seen confused me, im making big leaps in my pool game this yr, so why not take it further if i can and actually learn something lolI thought I'd throw out a little check I use to very accurately find A or C on the OB, especially the thin ones. Using your attacks to further the reach of CTE is merely a way to turn your evil. . The main reason why CTE is COMPLETE BULLSHIT (and, I’m sure, made up as somebody’s joke to show how dumb people are), is that there’s no discussion in it. His credentials are very impressive, with Pro player being one of his accomplishments. Also, now in effect, all. I'm still confused on the exact steps of stepping the cueball. See this image: The pivot point is the pink dot on the cue. There is nothing on Earth Stan or Hal Houle could have done without getting blasted for one thing or another. I've shot pool for a good portion of my life but never took it to the next level. Align the the cue about 1/2 tip off center from the cue ball. Basically, the claim is there are only three different aims for all cut shots: a “15° cut,” a “30° cut,” and a “45° cut. What's this fixation with aiming? It's a personal thing. I personally enjoyed his stories of his own personal life the most and called him many times just to. . the method fits the definition. I was very lucky yesterday to spend a day visiting Hal Houle. By: Search Advanced search…Search titles only. Teach professionals, very advanced players, and road money players. Hal Houle learned that through CTE a player can quickly tap into the purity of aiming. There are players that swear by them, and just as many that say they don't work. I've always been eager to hear anything that Stan had to say, especially when it comes to pool. (edited December 26th, Amazon ended the free promotion and the book is now $1. I'm pretty sure he was from the Albuquerque neck of the woods. Apr 24, 2017 #98 cookie man said: I got immediate results from CTE. The Master BCA instructor is quite. Search titles only. hal houle. I read morhts article but I would like further clarification. Harold Houle, now 85, said the time he spent with Greenleaf came during the late 1940s, or possibly in 1950. That "7 fractions" stuff is total BALONEY and I have no idea where that got pulled out of. good evening America. Since the book teaches us that a 15 inside and a 30 outside are interchangeable, if there's some lingering doubt which one to utilize, we're on safe ground in shooting it with a 30 outside. Hal teaches several systems. It has NEVER been enforced on those members who have free reign to say whatever they want negatively or disparagingly about Hal Houle, Stan Shuffett, CTE, Shishkabob, and students and usersJUST FINISHED reading mosconis autobiography for the tenth time. If you would like a copy, email me at The answers I received, from Houle followers, defied the laws of geometry and, as such, were absurd. Hal Houle showed this to me and it worked. "Hal" Houle, age 82, passed away on May 29, 2014. M is not exclusive but normally taught by SPF Instructors. I do have a slight background as I have had some interaction with some of the CTE names. explanation, when you take a normal pair of glasses and set them upon a flat surface you will notice that there is a larger seeing surface below the BOWS than above, then notice that the BRIDGE of the FRAME is normally round. way I aim is I am alway shooting cue ball center but I am using the edge of the shaft. Fez was also very good friends with Ralph Greenleaf who was also traveling the country with financially backed by. Several thousand players have been trained and over 200 new instructors produced since 1995 through the National Billiard Academy. Whether it be Hal Houle’s Center-to-Edge, Stan Shuffett’s Pro1 or Ron Vitello’s 90/90, offset and pivot systems afford players objective and repeatable methods of ball-pocketing (without the guesswork of ghost ball or other traditional methods. Basically, the claim is there are only three different aims for all cut shots: a “15° cut,” a “30° cut,” and a “45° cut. Share your videos with friends, family, and the worldHal Houle would have been so very proud, and I myself am proud for you and Hal. . By: Search Advanced search…Years ago, in a galaxy far, far away (in RSB, an internet pool newsgroup before AZ came along) he labeled Hal Houle a heretic for preaching this mystical and magical system called CTE. Joey: You know, Hal Houle's center to edge aiming system? Efren: Oh, my english. Both of these men have spent a lot of time figuring out alternative ways to line up to the shot. I have played around with CTE for ~ 2 years. If there were 10. . It is looked upon as extrordinary, but it is a duplicate. Here's another juicy secret I call Pivot Aim, used by Johnny Archer and Efren Reyes, and taught by me, Hal Houle and others to an elite few before this article. pj chgo . left side of shaft to right left and right side of the shaft to go right. Your mind’s eye can easily perceive each of the 500 shots referenced above as ‘one’. It is a Small World After all. They're very similar with the exception of starting out with an inside of center alignment to parts of the OB and then pivoting back to CCB with Shish. Still doing it. . The pro's answer would be 4 + 0 = 4. . Both are deadly ways to pocket balls, contrary to what has been claimed by a small. Conversely I have shown aiming systems to some good players and had them give me a confused look and decide that they didn't want to bother with it EVEN IF they agreed that it might help them. Several thousand players have been trained and over 200 new instructors produced since 1995 through the National Billiard Academy. Hal Houle . take the time go to the table and try it someone suggested. and Santos. you have nothing to lose. It can't get any more center pocket than that. He has a beautiful 4 1/2 x 9 Diamond table and light. People think they know more than they do - and they act like cyber bullies. Began instructing pool in 1945. I think asking someone about contact points would be like asking them the answer to x + y = 4. He drew in 3D the theory of rotating spheres. it's magic.